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		<title>By: techlahore</title>
		<link>http://www.techlahore.com/2009/05/22/the-importance-of-imagining-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1484</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 20:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has been no growth in the hardware industry globally for the past couple of years. The PC industry has actually shrunk quite significantly. We will have to wait for industry growth in order to leverage increased hardware/design outsourcing opportunities.

As for local products with a primarily domestic or regional market, i.e. the e-quran or the various local GPS-based fleet tracking systems, those have all grown at decent percentages for the past 2-3 years in Pakistan, despite the global recession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been no growth in the hardware industry globally for the past couple of years. The PC industry has actually shrunk quite significantly. We will have to wait for industry growth in order to leverage increased hardware/design outsourcing opportunities.</p>
<p>As for local products with a primarily domestic or regional market, i.e. the e-quran or the various local GPS-based fleet tracking systems, those have all grown at decent percentages for the past 2-3 years in Pakistan, despite the global recession.</p>
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		<title>By: nautilus</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 17:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to further add, what has happened to the nanotechnology industry we were rushing to create a few years ago? how has that turned out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to further add, what has happened to the nanotechnology industry we were rushing to create a few years ago? how has that turned out?</p>
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		<title>By: nautilus</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 17:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for bringing those to my attention, although I already knew of many of these companies and projects at universities. The problem is, they have all been doing what they currently doing right now for some time. I don&#039;t see any growth in the hardware industry, we are only continuing production of what little we have developed. I hope that our hardware industry increases in size, hopefully one day, we may even be producing chips. this may sound impossible, but there is a lot going in the military sector due to the need of electronics for weapon systems.

the key to promoting this industry is through our universities. yet when funding is cut off and there is barely enough money for R&amp;D, I don&#039;t see that growth taking place. I hope that the goverment gets its act together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for bringing those to my attention, although I already knew of many of these companies and projects at universities. The problem is, they have all been doing what they currently doing right now for some time. I don&#8217;t see any growth in the hardware industry, we are only continuing production of what little we have developed. I hope that our hardware industry increases in size, hopefully one day, we may even be producing chips. this may sound impossible, but there is a lot going in the military sector due to the need of electronics for weapon systems.</p>
<p>the key to promoting this industry is through our universities. yet when funding is cut off and there is barely enough money for R&amp;D, I don&#8217;t see that growth taking place. I hope that the goverment gets its act together.</p>
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		<title>By: techlahore</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 00:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nautilus, there is quite a bit happening in Pakistan, but obviously, I would love to see even more happen... nonetheless, here&#039;s a brief list:

1) FiveRivers&#039; Sirius handheld computer - http://www.fiveriverstech.com
2) Extensive UAV industry and associated software/electronics (civil and military) - http://techlahore.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/pakistans-growing-software-expertise-increasing-its-defence-capabilities/
3) Pakistan-owned Jointech&#039;s Windows CE based laptop (designed in Pk) - http://www.jointech.com.hk/products_JL7200.html
4) Mentor Graphics hardware design center - Lahore based
5) As you mentioned, PalmChip&#039;s Pakistan based design center
6) FPGA research at LUMS, SAHICS (BCCI FAST), GIKI, NUST, PIEAS and pretty much everywhere else. This is important, because if you can&#039;t produce an ASIC, configuring an FPGA is &quot;Second best&quot;. If the application proves itself out and there is high-volume demand,  you can always get an ASIC produced.
7) Karachi based company, DigiTek, developing FPGA based products in Pakistan - http://www.digitekeng.com/2.html
8 ) Some of the hardware research at PIEAS is yielding interesting publications, e.g. http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=1564771
9) There are numerous Digital Quran manufacturers HQ&#039;d out of Pakistan with all the hardware and software development being done in Pk, and manufacturing outsourced to China. Here&#039;s one example: http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/101163967/Digital_Quran_Idq_718_Large_2.html
10) ASIC design at CARE Pakistan - http://www.carepvtltd.com/
11) Streaming Networks based in Islamabad, where all their development occurs (video phones, video surveillance etc.) - http://www.streaming-networks.com/

I can go on and on, but hopefully this will be enough for now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nautilus, there is quite a bit happening in Pakistan, but obviously, I would love to see even more happen&#8230; nonetheless, here&#8217;s a brief list:</p>
<p>1) FiveRivers&#8217; Sirius handheld computer &#8211; <a href="http://www.fiveriverstech.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fiveriverstech.com</a><br />
2) Extensive UAV industry and associated software/electronics (civil and military) &#8211; <a href="http://techlahore.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/pakistans-growing-software-expertise-increasing-its-defence-capabilities/" rel="nofollow">http://techlahore.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/pakistans-growing-software-expertise-increasing-its-defence-capabilities/</a><br />
3) Pakistan-owned Jointech&#8217;s Windows CE based laptop (designed in Pk) &#8211; <a href="http://www.jointech.com.hk/products_JL7200.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jointech.com.hk/products_JL7200.html</a><br />
4) Mentor Graphics hardware design center &#8211; Lahore based<br />
5) As you mentioned, PalmChip&#8217;s Pakistan based design center<br />
6) FPGA research at LUMS, SAHICS (BCCI FAST), GIKI, NUST, PIEAS and pretty much everywhere else. This is important, because if you can&#8217;t produce an ASIC, configuring an FPGA is &#8220;Second best&#8221;. If the application proves itself out and there is high-volume demand,  you can always get an ASIC produced.<br />
7) Karachi based company, DigiTek, developing FPGA based products in Pakistan &#8211; <a href="http://www.digitekeng.com/2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.digitekeng.com/2.html</a><br />
8 ) Some of the hardware research at PIEAS is yielding interesting publications, e.g. <a href="http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=1564771" rel="nofollow">http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=1564771</a><br />
9) There are numerous Digital Quran manufacturers HQ&#8217;d out of Pakistan with all the hardware and software development being done in Pk, and manufacturing outsourced to China. Here&#8217;s one example: <a href="http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/101163967/Digital_Quran_Idq_718_Large_2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/101163967/Digital_Quran_Idq_718_Large_2.html</a><br />
10) ASIC design at CARE Pakistan &#8211; <a href="http://www.carepvtltd.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.carepvtltd.com/</a><br />
11) Streaming Networks based in Islamabad, where all their development occurs (video phones, video surveillance etc.) &#8211; <a href="http://www.streaming-networks.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.streaming-networks.com/</a></p>
<p>I can go on and on, but hopefully this will be enough for now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nautilus</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 20:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the question is, &quot;Where does Pakistan stand in the midst of this technological revolution?&quot;

Can we produce chips, processors, ASICs, graphics cards, or hardware? I know Palmchip opened a design/production center in Pakistan a few years ago. There isn&#039;t much to see on the civilian side, however, I do know that there is a lot of stuff going on in the military-industrial complex. I know AWC (Air Weapons Complex) has a lot of stuff going on in hardware.

Also, do we have the software engineers that can write and develop complex software? Where do our universities stand, when it comes to quality education? NUST has the highest ranking in the Top 500, at #376. How many engineers can our universities produce? More importantly, I think we should also highlight the lack of industry in Pakistan.

Ever since Bhutto embarked on his massive nationalization campaign, Pakistan&#039;s industrial backbone has been broken. this explains the massive brain drain our country has been going through the last 20-30 years. this explains why most Pakistani&#039;s run away to the US, UK, and Canada, it&#039;s because they won&#039;t find jobs here. the previous government finally took a step to correct that problem by promoting entrepreneurship.

I can only give credit for whatever little development we have had to former President Musharraf. at least during his time, we had a clear sense of direction. Our universities had something to work towards. Now, the goverment has cut off funding to our universities, public development, and even our nuclear program. I think Pakistan needs to learn a good long lesson for what it has brought back, democracy. I haven&#039;t even seen this government take a single step to promote the new-born IT industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the question is, &#8220;Where does Pakistan stand in the midst of this technological revolution?&#8221;</p>
<p>Can we produce chips, processors, ASICs, graphics cards, or hardware? I know Palmchip opened a design/production center in Pakistan a few years ago. There isn&#8217;t much to see on the civilian side, however, I do know that there is a lot of stuff going on in the military-industrial complex. I know AWC (Air Weapons Complex) has a lot of stuff going on in hardware.</p>
<p>Also, do we have the software engineers that can write and develop complex software? Where do our universities stand, when it comes to quality education? NUST has the highest ranking in the Top 500, at #376. How many engineers can our universities produce? More importantly, I think we should also highlight the lack of industry in Pakistan.</p>
<p>Ever since Bhutto embarked on his massive nationalization campaign, Pakistan&#8217;s industrial backbone has been broken. this explains the massive brain drain our country has been going through the last 20-30 years. this explains why most Pakistani&#8217;s run away to the US, UK, and Canada, it&#8217;s because they won&#8217;t find jobs here. the previous government finally took a step to correct that problem by promoting entrepreneurship.</p>
<p>I can only give credit for whatever little development we have had to former President Musharraf. at least during his time, we had a clear sense of direction. Our universities had something to work towards. Now, the goverment has cut off funding to our universities, public development, and even our nuclear program. I think Pakistan needs to learn a good long lesson for what it has brought back, democracy. I haven&#8217;t even seen this government take a single step to promote the new-born IT industry.</p>
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