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	<title>Comments on: As muslim countries progress, why do so many in the west react with anger and jealousy?</title>
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		<title>By: kamakazmi</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 16:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t know there was a lot of negative publicity here in the West, i mostly ready articles in noteworthy circulations that sounded mostly praising and describing the radical shift with co-ed and so forth. 

In any case, the Saudis had spent millions on education before, they already had world class facilities, but the youth is interested in social sciences, and ex-patriots often cant afford to send their kids to those schools of higher learning. 

I think its great they are putting money in building nice structures, but if they don&#039;t improve the primary and madrasa education in their country, thats all these buildings are going to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t know there was a lot of negative publicity here in the West, i mostly ready articles in noteworthy circulations that sounded mostly praising and describing the radical shift with co-ed and so forth. </p>
<p>In any case, the Saudis had spent millions on education before, they already had world class facilities, but the youth is interested in social sciences, and ex-patriots often cant afford to send their kids to those schools of higher learning. </p>
<p>I think its great they are putting money in building nice structures, but if they don&#8217;t improve the primary and madrasa education in their country, thats all these buildings are going to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 07:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually love my own husband sooo much and as a consequence he is actually fabulous for me.   I really like nearly anything associated with him.  The only problem though, is he is friends with far too many young women and I hate knowing that he is talking to a number of ladies besides myself.   I hate being jealous. I&#039;m trying to just ignore the jealousy but I can&#039;t. Please help me out. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually love my own husband sooo much and as a consequence he is actually fabulous for me.   I really like nearly anything associated with him.  The only problem though, is he is friends with far too many young women and I hate knowing that he is talking to a number of ladies besides myself.   I hate being jealous. I&#8217;m trying to just ignore the jealousy but I can&#8217;t. Please help me out. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Margie @ Maryland 4G Wireless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margie @ Maryland 4G Wireless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, just doing some research for my Maryland 4g website.  Can&#039;t believe the amount of information out there.  Not what I was looking for, but interesting page.  Have a great day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, just doing some research for my Maryland 4g website.  Can&#8217;t believe the amount of information out there.  Not what I was looking for, but interesting page.  Have a great day.</p>
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		<title>By: Saleem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saleem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The grudge shown by the west towards Islam and Muslims as a  whole is realy a thing sown into their minds since the early days of Islam. This can be testified by citing as an example the Crusade that the west waged against Islam whose aim was to prevent the further spread of Islam,that is realy what is happening to this day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The grudge shown by the west towards Islam and Muslims as a  whole is realy a thing sown into their minds since the early days of Islam. This can be testified by citing as an example the Crusade that the west waged against Islam whose aim was to prevent the further spread of Islam,that is realy what is happening to this day.</p>
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		<title>By: Ayyaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ayyaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great University from Muslim World..This is a Institution I think where all the Muslim Youth must associate themselves to restore their Dignity..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great University from Muslim World..This is a Institution I think where all the Muslim Youth must associate themselves to restore their Dignity..</p>
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		<title>By: Anil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi true article... I have lived in Saudi for alomst a year and worked in HSBC there..
I Must tell... the kind of respect and hospotality we ( team of 4 ) recevied in Saudi is great.. There are couple of incidances where we are questioned by Mutavahs ( Saudi Religious policce), when we are roaming around streets in Salah ( prayer timings), but those are not serious .. the only serious is we are detained by Mutavahs when they caught us while taking pictures of Kingdom towers. HSBC officers rescued us... anyway.. but overall I liked people there esepcailly the Saudis in white collar jobs like in HSBC and other banks are having good attitude of learing new things, they are aware of there country&#039;s limitations due to the religious framework.. but they are trying to learn the things.. I have interacted many saudi woman in my job and the same learnig attitude can be seen in them.. they are trying to do their best and doing all hard work in acquiring all modern economic skills ( be in Computer, business, general awareness of global economy) despite being constrained by religious regulations..
Overall there is wide misconception about Saudi in West and too in Indian middle class.. I have to convince lot of people in my team to go there and work with HSBC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi true article&#8230; I have lived in Saudi for alomst a year and worked in HSBC there..<br />
I Must tell&#8230; the kind of respect and hospotality we ( team of 4 ) recevied in Saudi is great.. There are couple of incidances where we are questioned by Mutavahs ( Saudi Religious policce), when we are roaming around streets in Salah ( prayer timings), but those are not serious .. the only serious is we are detained by Mutavahs when they caught us while taking pictures of Kingdom towers. HSBC officers rescued us&#8230; anyway.. but overall I liked people there esepcailly the Saudis in white collar jobs like in HSBC and other banks are having good attitude of learing new things, they are aware of there country&#8217;s limitations due to the religious framework.. but they are trying to learn the things.. I have interacted many saudi woman in my job and the same learnig attitude can be seen in them.. they are trying to do their best and doing all hard work in acquiring all modern economic skills ( be in Computer, business, general awareness of global economy) despite being constrained by religious regulations..<br />
Overall there is wide misconception about Saudi in West and too in Indian middle class.. I have to convince lot of people in my team to go there and work with HSBC</p>
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		<title>By: DesiBackToDesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>DesiBackToDesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankfully not.

Luckily the 300 lbs, Harley riding tech crowd in northern Virginia that I hung out with were already familiar with Pakistan on account of their desi better halves.  I was treated with all the love and care allocated to brother in laws in that part of the world including the thursday afternoon road side pit bbq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankfully not.</p>
<p>Luckily the 300 lbs, Harley riding tech crowd in northern Virginia that I hung out with were already familiar with Pakistan on account of their desi better halves.  I was treated with all the love and care allocated to brother in laws in that part of the world including the thursday afternoon road side pit bbq.</p>
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		<title>By: techlahore</title>
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		<dc:creator>techlahore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True. But the tech community is only a reflection of the wider society in which it is present. After all, haven&#039;t you ever met a member of the &quot;dem brown devils took ma job&quot; brigade?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. But the tech community is only a reflection of the wider society in which it is present. After all, haven&#8217;t you ever met a member of the &#8220;dem brown devils took ma job&#8221; brigade?</p>
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		<title>By: DesiBackToDesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>DesiBackToDesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tech.

The Saudi&#039;s have always invested well in education.

Way back in the 90&#039;s when we were still learning how to type, they setup KFUPM in Khobar (http://www.kfupm.edu.sa/kfupm/about/history.aspx), which sort of became a beacon for graduate students in the region. Atif Memon, our TA and Gold Medalist from FAST in 1991, spent 2 years as a researcher at KFUPM before heading to university of Pittsburg for his PhD and then landed as an Associate Professor at University of Maryland. Atif now consults regularly for USAID and a number of entities interested in educational development in the region.

Saudi Arabia, may or may not have issues is a separate debate. Even if you have never been to KSA, all you need to do is see is the last ten minutes of Kingdom to realize that a) there are good and bad people every where and b) this mutual hate is not going to get us anywhere.  Kingdom btw was a Michael Mann film and I find hard to believe that a techno geek would miss a Mann masterpiece.

What I am surprised at is the concentration  at Tech Crunch. One would generally not expect this level of a Paranoid Hick Goat Herding Pack Behaviour (PHGHPB) from the technology community. Some of us my most enlightened friends are pure bred Ameriki technologists and they have been the most open and accepting groups I have ever interacted with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tech.</p>
<p>The Saudi&#8217;s have always invested well in education.</p>
<p>Way back in the 90&#8242;s when we were still learning how to type, they setup KFUPM in Khobar (<a href="http://www.kfupm.edu.sa/kfupm/about/history.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.kfupm.edu.sa/kfupm/about/history.aspx</a>), which sort of became a beacon for graduate students in the region. Atif Memon, our TA and Gold Medalist from FAST in 1991, spent 2 years as a researcher at KFUPM before heading to university of Pittsburg for his PhD and then landed as an Associate Professor at University of Maryland. Atif now consults regularly for USAID and a number of entities interested in educational development in the region.</p>
<p>Saudi Arabia, may or may not have issues is a separate debate. Even if you have never been to KSA, all you need to do is see is the last ten minutes of Kingdom to realize that a) there are good and bad people every where and b) this mutual hate is not going to get us anywhere.  Kingdom btw was a Michael Mann film and I find hard to believe that a techno geek would miss a Mann masterpiece.</p>
<p>What I am surprised at is the concentration  at Tech Crunch. One would generally not expect this level of a Paranoid Hick Goat Herding Pack Behaviour (PHGHPB) from the technology community. Some of us my most enlightened friends are pure bred Ameriki technologists and they have been the most open and accepting groups I have ever interacted with.</p>
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		<title>By: amir</title>
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		<dc:creator>amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should have invested the petro dollars in higher education and promotion of excellence of learning centers instead of Wahabi Madarsas. I think there is a change in the new generation and they realize their enemies who just want them as consumers of their goods and have stagnant society. It is a late move but a major move and this is the direction each of the Muslim country should move to shun the fanatic extreamism and get the real message of Islam.  Saudies will eat the fruit of this investment in few decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should have invested the petro dollars in higher education and promotion of excellence of learning centers instead of Wahabi Madarsas. I think there is a change in the new generation and they realize their enemies who just want them as consumers of their goods and have stagnant society. It is a late move but a major move and this is the direction each of the Muslim country should move to shun the fanatic extreamism and get the real message of Islam.  Saudies will eat the fruit of this investment in few decades.</p>
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